Herbie Hancock, Charlie Haden and Genre in the New Century
January 1, 2008 by Gabriel
Two items I’ve been listening to lately, Herbie Hancock’s tribute to Joni Mitchell, River: the Joni Letters and Charlie Haden’s album with Pat Metheny, Beyond the Missouri Sky, have made me think about an awful lot of my favorite music right now and the issue of genre in contemporary music.
What are they? Jazz? They both involve extended improvisation, “jazz” instrumentation (i.e., saxophones, guitars, bass, drums, piano in various combinations), interpretation of songs by creative musicians, with or without vocals, extended tonal harmony, a preponderance of “groove-based” rhythmic and metric sensibility, an apparent desire to communicate with an audience and the sense that we are listening to a communication between musicians. But each in its way also seems like pop music, and each perhaps even more seems like contemporary classical music. And it’s not just Hancock and Haden–Ornette Coleman, Julian Velard, The Bad Plus, E.S.T., Bobo Stenson, Elvis Costello to name just a few have made recordings that share some or all of these qualities.
This seems compelling to me–that this music might be good jazz and good pop and good classical music all at once, without giving up anything. This stuff isn’t “fusion” in the sense that term has been used in the past (both inasmuch as it’s not generically like the 70s and 80s-era work by post-Miles musicians and proto-smooth jazz practitioners, and inasmuch as it doesn’t really seem to be an attempt to fuse distinct things). Rather, I think it’s a synthesis, it represents musicians finding the things that are in common between multiple traditions, or perhaps playing in the cracks between them.
Jazz musicians have said, for some time now, of course, starting probably with Ellington, that what they’re doing isn’t bounded by some narrow frame; many have rejected the genre label outright. In teaching jazz history I always bring this up, but I think I’ve failed to fully grasp its importance; I bring it up but dismiss it, because, after all, it is jazz, right? Even if the term is hard to define, slippery, a thing you can only see if you don’t focus on it, if you let it exist in your peripheral vision. And it is true–there are lineages, there is a semi-closed circle of a scene existing over the course of the 20th century, making a music that has characteristics of a single genre or tradition; but the potential is always there to see it as a genre that is its negation. In a sense it seems like these musicians are moving past a host of dying traditions. Jazz is doomed, I think, if it is understood just as a set of sonic markers (ii-V progressions, bop melodic lines, swung eighths, and so on), as it is taught in colleges and universities; contemporary classical music is a language that speaks to almost no one; and frankly, pop singing is capable of so much more than industry people often allow it.
These new recordings follow that and even suggest that what might be called the tyranny of genre in the 20th century is cracking in the 21st. In an interview on NPR with Tavis Smiley, Hancock said of the Mitchell album that he is just trying to make music–it’s a little jazz and a little classical and a little pop and a little of this and that; genre has become (and maybe always was) an industry short cut to sales. It is also a tool for communication with an audience, I think, but the possibility that all the musics of the 20th century with their rigid or at least semi-rigid race and class associations, might be let go in the new century, and that musicians, black and white, old and young, rich and poor, American and from elsewhere, male and female might come together to search out new paths is genuinely inspiring.
UPDATE
Joezer Mendonca, a professor and musician at Sao Paulo State University has a nice follow-up to this post on his blog, Nota Na Pauta. His point that similar processes of synthesis, crossover, etc. have happened in Brazil and are continuing to happen is well made. I particularly like the point that in the Brazilian pop scene sub-generic fusions (samba-reggae, samba-cancao and so on) have been important and different from super-generic fusions (like those I’m writing about above, and like figures like Pixinguinha or Caetano Veloso).
UPDATE
I should really add two comments to this post:
First, I am indebted to a couple of students for getting my head churning on this stuff lately: Brian Felix (who is a contributor to this site, and wrote a very interesting paper for me on rock tunes played in jazz contexts), and Chris Nolte, who has been pushing me beyond my knee-jerk resistance to ECM stuff, who didn’t suggest the Haden to me, but whose suggestions did send me looking for things that eventually ended me up listening to that album.
Second, as much as I love Hancock, and dig this album, it is fair to say that despite his protestations to the contrary, this Joni Mitchell project is a SURE-FIRE hit. It was probably a genuine surprise when he won the grammy, but I’d bet his producers didn’t see the CD as a big financial gamble. Between the fact that it is a tribute album and the line-up it has to have looked to everyone involved like easy money.
GS
“contemporary classical music is a language that speaks to almost no one”
Ouch. My bruised ego.
Yes, perhaps that’s over the top. Actually, I should say something like “much that passes for contemporary classical music is in a language that speaks to very few,” but it and jazz, like pop music is still capable of very, very much.
Awww, thanks Gabriel. And you’re welcome. It’s always nice to see one more think on the great interweb that will give me another hit when I’m bored and sitting around Googling my name…
That being said, this is a topic that is very near and dear to my heart. I’ve always been one to feel that genre is about as constricting as anything can be. But at the same time a necessary evil. I used to have this dream of opening up a record store where everything was just in alphabetical order. No genres or sections. Just everything mixed with everything else. And to see how people react to seeing Wayne Shorter and Frank Sinatra in the same area as the Sex Pistols, Paul Simon, Sugar Hill, Snoop Dogg, Shostakovitch, Schumann, Slayer, etc… So much is mentioned about artists trying to transcend genre because of its limits, but I think not enough is said about how limiting it can be to the listener. I’ve talked with numerous people who only listen to (insert genre here) and will rarely venture out of their comfort zones. And it’s difficult to think about how much great music there is in this world if people would just open their ears and take a few chances here and there.
Anyway, enough of that soapbox…
Chris Said: “I’ve always been one to feel that genre is about as constricting as anything can be. But at the same time a necessary evil.”
I hear you, but want to say that I am not convinced it’s always a problem. Or, perhaps it’s that genres arise out of scenes and traditions, and those things are often really good. You don’t get all that great music until a critical mass of people all agree to work together on the same basic project, I think. It’s why Chicago in the mid-40s produced SO MUCH great blues, much of which was as genre-based as can be.
Devil’s advocate.
Missouri Sky has long been a favorite of mine. Beautiful, intimate, interesting, and lots of other things. Just recommended it to someone (for the upteenth time) yesterday.
Not to beat a dead horse, but it also depends on what you mean by “language,” “speaks to, ” and “almost no one.” However, you central thesis makes me happy. Anyone who has spent any amount of time in the chatter pages of NewMusicBox can tell you that often the conversation about contempo-classical music often devolves into ridiculous and boring-ass dichotomies like “tonal/atonal,” and “accessible/non-accessible.” Hardly anyone bothers to define what they mean by either of the four terms above, but settles for a hand-me-down conception of the modern audience that has about as much to do with reality as apples have to do with crank shafts (?)
It’s easy to imagine a genre as constitutive somehow - as if the artist knows exactly what will be the result of their creation, as if they were attempting to create a genre. I used to disagree with Collingwood when he defined artistry as a cocktail of experimentation, inexperience, subservience to the art object (my understanding of his ideas, not his exact words). I imagine it’s similar to the way Cage disliked the term (experimental music) at first. But then I realized that’s what happens when I write - the piece/song/whatever starts to tell YOU what to do at some point. I think that’s actually kind of cool. Let’s see, what am I getting at?
Yes. Genre is a construction - like music theory actually, after the fact. That’s why we have so many lame-ass excuses on hand for when a theory student asks us why Bach wrote a parallel 5th in the 1st fugue from the Well-Tempered Klavier. Genre is a way of conceiving of the creative blah. That’s why I’m excited to here about people forgetting all about it. I also hope that there is such a thing called synthesis that is distinct from fusion/third-stream/etc. Third stream and fusion has always made me suspicious. But I have to believe that it is possible to love and learn from a lot of different kinds of music (I’m talking structure AND sound) - popular/world/jazz/etc. - without being a neo-colonialist/aesthetic comprador. This is a different question though, one that I’m not sure I’m up to answering yet.
[...] It is certainly smooth, and like Hancock’s Joni Mitchell tribute (I wrote about it here) it has its jazzy-qualities; but this is a far hipper, somewhat younger Obama-music connection. [...]
Some brazilian authors believed that our music (samba, for instance) was our “authentic” expression and bossa nova could not be considerated as a true brazilian music, due to its melting with jazz and some Debussy.
but, new authors, as Marcos Napolitano and Hermano Viana (overmundo.com.br) think that even samba was born from other traditions. so, there’s no “authentic” or “pure” brazilian samba. The act of melting styles and traditions was always in the mind of our composers.
The composers and singers of today, experimenting new sounds are just joining to the samba-canção times (mixtures with bolero and fox-trot), to the Tropicalia movement (with Caetano, Tom Zé and Gilberto Gil making bridges between pop and samba, guitar and pandeiro, Carmen Miranda and Beatles), in few words, to brazilian fine tradition of melting sounds and cultures (even not pleasing everyone and sometimes so misunderstood).
from blog Nota na Pauta,
joêzer.